3 Headed Eagle Vision Revisited

24 12 2016

In my original 2009 post about this ancient prophecy found in 2 Esdras and its fulfilment I interpreted the waking of the first head and devouring of the 2 wings following the current president as taking place via some kind of coup – resulting in an unelected person assuming the presidency. One reader commented his belief that it would not be after the 12th but 14th president following H.Hoover and would push the fulfilment of this part of the vision out till 2024/2030 at the very earliest. I have been reflecting about these issues and want to share my thoughts with you.

Timing: It is important to get the timing right! The vision states that after Bill Clinton’s presidency (the 12th) two more “contrary” presidents would rule prior to the waking of the first of three heads. In total the vision says there would be 8 contrary wings (2 Esd. 11:10-11). Two of those would “perish when the middle of its [eagle’s] time draw near” (2 Esd. 12:21) , two would rule after Bill Clinton, two would prepare to rule but never do so and the final two would rule after the 3 heads and preside over the end of the nation.

The key to figuring out if the prophecy points to the first head arising now or in 8-12 years from now is what “the middle of its time” refers to since they perish before that time. The only other reference to “the middle of its time” is found in 2 Esd. 12:18 when it says that “the middle of that kingdom’s time” is the great depression from which it begins to count the 12 presidents. So there is no way that these 2 can have any role at the end of the nation’s history. It leaves us with no other conclusion than that the first head has awaken and is about to assume power in the country.

The second issue that originally led me to believe that the first head would initially awake in 2012 is the statement in 2 Esd.11:27 when it says “a second also, and this disappeared more quickly than the preceding one.” I assumed that this meant that since Bush had ruled two terms, Soetero would not complete second term. However the statement could instead  refer to the influnce/legacy of the ex-presidents rather than their term in office. If this is the case then it would be easy to see how this is about to be fulfilled. Not only did Soetero continue and extend Bush’s policies and legacy, but  Trump has stated his intention to completely eradicate Soetero’s legacy and he has the support in the house and senate to do so.

If the interpretation of both of these verses are correct then the first head is about to assume his post at the head of the nation.

Rise to Power: The second issue is the nature of how the first head comes to power. Esdras tells us in (11:31) that it devours the two contrary wings when they are planning to rule. Clearly this must have taken/will take place before the inauguration. I had originally assumed that was to be a non-democratic coup of some kind based on Esdras assertion in (2 Esd.12:11) that the eagle was Daniel’s 4th kingdom. In another post I document how Daniel’s prophecy has repeated fulfilments in history and the prophecy of the 4th kingdom was fulfulled in the history of Assyria, Rome and now in America. In each, 3 notable rulers arise, in Assyria it was the biblical Senacherib, Esarhaddon and Ashurbanipal, in Rome it was the Caesars; Julius, Augustus and Tiberius and in America it will be the three heads of the eagle. In considering the parallel to Julius Caesar, who overthrew the senate to gain power I concluded that a coup of some kind was indicated.

An educated guess however is still just a guess and while history repeats it does not always do it in exactly the same way. Esdra’s literary device in stating that the first head “devoured” the wings preparing to rule does not mandate a coup. Symbolically speaking how else is a bird head with only a beak going to overturn a planned presidency. Those planning to occupy the white house won’t be literally devoured in any way. It is just as possible that this devouring just refers to the annihilation of the presidential nominee’s candidature. Where does this leave us? Is Trump the first head?

Review: Lets review the facts.

  1. The first head acts when someone is already planning their presidency. This implies that they are virtually assured of taking the position.
  2. We are not told how the first head comes to power, just that it “suddenly awakes” and devours the planned president which implies a large element of surprise – the whole matter is quite unexpected if not a bit out of the ordinary.
  3. The head is quite unlike previous presidents, clearly he is not a politican.
  4. The first head will renew many things (2  Esd:12:23) and rule with a stronger hand than any before him.

There has perhaps been no candidate more surer of claiming the presidency than Hillary. She not only had the support of all the media, many foreign governments, but had the DNC rigged to make sure of it and all the polls put her way in the lead. She even had preplanned post-election celebrations, which  had to cancelled at the last minute. Her defeat was so unexpected that it has led to total disbelief and much angst among her supporters.

In spite of Trump’s statement that he is not seeking to do her any harm, Hillary remains at a high risk of being devoured by her email and clinton foundation scandals. The FBI is continuing their investigation. Whether she is prosecuted or not it makes little difference in the bigger scheme of things, the fact that the investigation continues and the risk of prosecution is sufficient to keep her down and out.

While Trump had been toying with the idea of running for president over the years, few people took him seriously, many assuming that his motions in that direction was just to gain publicity for his businesses. The 2016 election was as much a sudden, if not a rude awakening for the entire political establishment, as if he had shown no previous interest.  His winning the presidency was a bolt out of the blue and with his election have awoken  many conservative political forces that have been dormant for many years.

Trump’s platform is precisely that of “renewing many things” – and in so doing “making america great again“, if only for a period of time. So the current president elect can in fact be seen to fit the symbolic description in the prophecy. If he is the first head of this eagle, then all the other events listed in my original post will take place within the next few years. Economic crash, civil war/unrest and the union of church and state. His rise marks the beginning of the end. It represents the last gasp for air of the america of old before it sinks into oblivion. The president elect no doubt has good intentions, and will restore many things but the good ship of liberty has gone too far to ever come back. She might turn about, but the unseen tide of clandestine forces will nevertheless continue to sweep her further into the awaiting storm that is the final apocalypse.

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